Greater Than Code

by Mandy Moore

For a long time, tech culture has focused too narrowly on technical skills; this has resulted in a tech community that too often puts companies and code over people. Greater Than Code is a podcast that invites the voices of people who are not heard from enough in tech: women, people of color, trans and/or queer folks, to talk about the human side of software development and technology. Greater Than Code is providing a vital platform for these conversations, and developing new ideas of what it means to be a technologist beyond just the code. Featuring an ongoing panel of racially and gender diverse tech panelists, the majority of podcast guests so far have been women in tech! We’ve covered topics including imposter syndrome, mental illness, sexuality, unconscious bias and social justice. We also have a major focus on skill sets that tech too often devalues, like team-building, hiring, community organizing, mentorship and empathy. Each episode also includes a transcript. We have an active Slack community that members can join by pledging as little as $1 per month via Patreon. (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode)

  

Latest Episodes

189: Succeeding in Science with Deborah Berebichez

01:13 - Debbie’s Superpower: Having an excellent memory and a detailed-oriented brain 03:23 - Teaching Science in Fun Ways * Sourcebooks Baby University Books, Assorted Science Titles, Set of 4 (https://www.schoolspecialty.com/sourcebooks-baby-university-four-book-set-2023976?kxconfid=u7avswvjn&source=google&campaignid=9240857700&placement=shopping&keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAjw88v3BRBFEiwApwLevfrBS0j1HjYBbeJEDTBCZd6TlGLCGEJap-mjxWraRahzKDOThgol3BoCYvgQAvD_BwE) * Thermodynamics for Babies and Toddlers (https://www.amazon.com/Thermodynamics-Babies-Toddlers-Maths-Science/dp/1075151368) * thesciencebabe (https://www.youtube.com/user/thesciencebabe/videos) (Debbie’s YouTube Channel) * Ruth Spiro Books (https://ruthspiro.com/books/) 05:49 - Understanding Data & Data Literacy * First Steps to Understanding: See Examples; Do Experiments * Demystifying Data Science (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-17j6vjbfr8) * Why Correlation does not Imply Causation in Statistics (https://www.mathtutordvd.com/public/Why-Correlation-does-not-Imply-Causation-in-Statistics.cfm) * Divorce And Margarine (https://blogs.ams.org/blogonmathblogs/2017/04/10/divorce-and-margarine/#:~:text=The%20correlation%20between%20the%20divorce,book%20of%20the%20same%20name.) * Metis Data Literacy Course (https://www.thisismetis.com/corporate-training/courses/data-literacy) 15:16 - Negative Results Are Important (Failure) * Education Between Boys vs Girls * Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol S. Dweck (https://www.amazon.com/Mindset-Psychology-Carol-S-Dweck/dp/0345472322) * Growth vs Fixed Mindset (https://fs.blog/2015/03/carol-dweck-mindset/) * Battling Discouragement, Lack of Confidence, and Perseverance 29:20 - Human Performance is Contextual – Science can be exclusionary 34:27 - Debbie’s Inspiration to Become a Scientist * Your Story Is Your Power: Free Your Feminine Voice 41:17 - Debbie’s TV Career * The Physics of High Heels (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIIo0SlagD8) * Dr. Debbie Berebichez Talks About Science (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqRPJMd7EA) * Debbie’s National Geographic Reel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bfOq2O3U2w) * Humanly Impossible (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1701983/) * Debbie’s IMDb Page (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5636666/?ref_=tt_cl_t1) * Co-Hosting Discovery Channel’s Outrageous Acts of Science (https://www.sciencechannel.com/tv-shows/outrageous-acts-of-science/) 50:29 - Finding Ways to Solve Complex Concepts * Go Back to the Basics * Using Code is For Solving Problems; Critical Thinking * Taking a Holistic View Reflections: Rein: Gordon Pask’s Conversation Theory (https://www.instructionaldesign.org/theories/conversation-theory/) Arty: Teaching the how and teaching the why. Astrid: Perseverance and authenticity: Being yourself and allowing yourself to evolve. Debbie: This podcast was much different from being a guest on other podcasts. This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Special Guest: Deborah Berebichez.


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Posted on 1 July 2020 | 9:00 am


188: Going Off the Rails with Damien Burke

01:10 - Damien’s Superpower: The ability to hold conflicting beliefs at the same time. * Blind Men and an Elephant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant) * Law of Excluded Middle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_excluded_middle#:~:text=In%20logic%2C%20the%20law%20of,and%20the%20law%20of%20identity.) 04:09 - Life is Hard. How do we make things easy? * Simon’s Ant (https://everything2.com/title/Simon%2527s+ant) * Emergent Behavior (https://www.thwink.org/sustain/glossary/EmergentBehavior.htm#:~:text=Emergent%20behavior%20is%20behavior%20of,of%20a%20system's%20individual%20parts.) * Conway’s Game of Life (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_Game_of_Life) * Embodied Cognition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embodied_cognition#:~:text=Embodied%20cognition%20is%20a%20topic,the%20mind%20influences%20bodily%20actions.) * Cognitive Systems Engineering (https://www.ppi-int.com/resources/systems-engineering-faq/relationship-cognitive-systems-engineering-systems-engineering/#:~:text=Cognitive%20Systems%20Engineering%3A%20Cognitive%20Systems,is%20both%20efficient%20and%20robust.) * Joint Cognitive Systems (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=joint+cognitive+systems&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart) 12:03 - Treating Expertise as Transferable to Different Fields * Technical Privilege * Cognitive Bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases) – List of Cognitive Biases * Heuristic Shortcuts * Specifications not Test (https://damienburke.com/specifications-not-tests) – Damien’s “Don’t Call it Test-Driven Development Essay * Fundamental Attribution Error (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error) 17:54 - Loving Yourself Unconditionally and Seeing Flaws “You are whole, perfect, and complete.” (https://twitter.com/ExMember/status/839518385499066368) – Damien Burke Virginia Satir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Satir): The basis of human interaction is acknowledging the inherent value in ourselves and another person. Giving Feedback – The key is authenticity. Treating People The Way They Want to be Treated vs How YOU Want to be Treated The Platinum Rule (https://blog.peoplefirstps.com/connect2lead/the-platinum-rule-2) Mister Rogers: What do you do with the mad that you feel? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viqPDiH7M9A) “The problem is never the problem; how we cope is the problem.” – Virginia Satir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Satir) 27:03 - Shakespeare was Garbage * Playing Shakespeare (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2VnxiW3oqk) * Highbrow Language * Looking For Richard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_for_Richard) 30:08 - Sponsorship Message 31:20 - EarlyWords (https://www.earlywords.io) / Morning Pages * The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron (https://www.amazon.com/Artists-Way-25th-Anniversary/dp/0143129252) 36:08 - Damien’s Background in Theater and Applying it to Tech “I play the piano, but my instrument is the orchestra.” – Attribution Unknown “The conductor is the only person in the orchestra that doesn’t make a sound.” – Benjamin Zander (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Zander) Being a Leader/Conductor/Manager is an Act of Service 41:42 - Ontological Coaching * Epistemic – What even is knowledge? * The Scientific Method (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method#:~:text=The%20process%20of%20the%20scientific,observations%20based%20on%20those%20predictions.&text=Scientists%20then%20test%20hypotheses%20by%20conducting%20experiments%20or%20studies.) Reflections: John: Why Tacit Knowledge is More Important Than Deliberate Practice (https://commoncog.com/blog/tacit-knowledge-is-a-real-thing/) Rein: It is hard to translate theory into practice. Damien: Life is hard. Make everything you can easy! This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Special Guest: Damien Burke.


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Posted on 24 June 2020 | 9:00 am


187: Seeing The World with Bryan Liles

01:50 - Bryan’s Superpower: The ability to see the world as it is 06:52 - Conference Circuits / Virtual Conferencing * KubeCon (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=KC_CNC_Virtual&gclid=CjwKCAjw5vz2BRAtEiwAbcVIL7LDb7jGC7Fiq3gVMxj6_SL7f4qa0eIlnMUKGtO91vtNvKkLyU35ahoCLkEQAvD_BwE) * Keynote: CNCF Project Updates - Bryan Liles, KubeCon + CloudNativeCon North America 2019 Co-Chair (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=two3TzF9mVY) * Beyond Kubernetes - Interview with Bryan Liles (KubeCon 2019, Barcelona) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNCUhD0Qeio) * Re-imagining Continuous {Integration | Delivery | Deployment | Whatever} - Bryan Liles (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHuFqhE1HIM) (DeliveryConf Seattle Talk) * Engagement: In-Person vs Virtual * Conferences Aren’t Inclusive (as they stand) 17:44 - Working Remotely During Quarantine * Productivity * Depression * Find a Piece of Life That Makes You Happy 23:48 - The Premise of Being Greater Than Code * We Are Not Our Code 26:24 - Fighting/Overcoming Meritocracy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritocracy) * Be the Smartest Person in the Room * Sharing Ideas * Building a Supportive Community Around Yourself “I'm not underrepresented anymore. Y'all are over-represented. Not going to use a negative to describe my existence. I'm Bryan, and I'm supposed to be here.” (https://twitter.com/bryanl/status/1134565369098756096) – Bryan Liles via Twitter If you believe in meritocracy, you believe in white supremacy. 34:50 - How People Work and View the World * Writing Things Down * Be Ready to Perform * Cockiness vs Confidence: Celebrating Success * Humans are Inconsistent: People Are NOT Perfect 42:41 - Finding Power in Something Else * Have Mantras; Center Your Life * Meek Mill - Dreams And Nightmares (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gfqs1-NuE) This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Special Guest: Bryan Liles.


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Posted on 17 June 2020 | 9:00 am


186: The Universe Makes it Happen with Emily Gorcenski

Emily has been on GTC before! Check out her previous episode: 037: Failure Mode (https://www.greaterthancode.com/failure-mode) 01:08 - Emily’s Superpower: Hunting Nazis and Data Science * Emily’s Motivation to Do This Work – Fighting Back * What is the question behind the question? * Data Science + SCIENCE 14:55 - Being Willing to Be Wrong / Failure and Learning * Methods for Determining You’re Going to be Tracking Wrong Things * Simpson’s Paradox (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Simpsons-paradox#:~:text=Simpson's%20paradox%2C%20also%20called%20Yule,one%20or%20more%20other%20variables.) * Means Are a Lie * Detecting Nonlinearities 34:49 - Cybernetics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybernetics) * 093: BOOK CLUB! Cybernetic Revolutionaries with Eden Medina (https://www.greaterthancode.com/cybernetic-revolutionaries) 38:43 - The COVID-19 Pandemic Crisis and The Need For Systematic Restructuring * The Problem with Testing * Conditional Probability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_probability) * Bayes Rule (https://towardsdatascience.com/what-is-bayes-rule-bb6598d8a2fd?gi=2073fb276511) * Ventilator Production 47:16 - Nuance, Power, and Authority * High-Reliability Organizations * Devolution * The Safety Anarchist (https://www.amazon.com/Safety-Anarchist-innovation-bureaucracy-compliance/dp/1138300462) * The Difference Between: * Innovation * A Work-Around * A Shortcut * A Non-Compliant * Deciphering Good Actors & Bad Actors This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Special Guest: Emily Gorcenski.


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Posted on 10 June 2020 | 9:00 am


Special Edition: #BlackLivesMatter

There are no show notes nessecary for this episode. Your job is to listen and learn from these 3 strong women. Special Guests: Isa Herico-Velasco , Kim Crayton, and Shireen Mitchell.


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Posted on 4 June 2020 | 9:00 am


185: Adaptive Capacity and Mutual Aid with Michelle Glauser

02:27 - Michelle’s Superpower: Resilience * Graceful Extensibility (https://thompson.wiki.innovateoregon.org/graceful-extensibility.html) 04:59 - Techtonica (https://techtonica.org/) * The Board * Breaking Barriers Into Tech * Income Sharing Agreements * Job Placement Success * Setting Cohorts Up For Success * Becoming an Educator * Socioeconomic Factors * Limbo: Blue-Collar Roots, White-Collar Dreams (https://www.amazon.com/Limbo-Blue-Collar-Roots-White-Collar-Dreams/dp/0471714399) 25:35 - Adaptive Capacity and Mutual Aid * Saying vs Showing You/They Care / Investment / Helping Others * Sponsorship * Hiring * Unemployment * Survival Mode 46:51 - Techtonica Success Stories Reflections: Rein: What’s going to happen after the pandemic? How will things be different? Michelle: The world has an opportunity to change. Jamey: The things Techtonica provides to its’ cohorts to break down barriers to entry in tech is awesome. Arty: Asking what can I do to make a difference? This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Special Guest: Michelle Glauser.


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Posted on 3 June 2020 | 9:00 am


184: The Python Software Foundation and the Future of Conferencing with Naomi Ceder & Ewa Jodlawska

01:39 - Ewa’s Superpower: Organization * PyCon (https://us.pycon.org/) 02:01 - Naomi’s Superpower: Empathy for the Marginalized 02:51 - The Python Software Foundation (PSF) (https://www.python.org/psf/) * PyCon Online (https://us.pycon.org/2020/online/) * PyPI (https://pypi.org/) 05:26 - Regional and Local Meetings: Building a Healthy Community 06:52 - “Everybody Pays” and the PSF Budget * Financial Aid 11:16 - How the Pandemic is Effecting the PSF * Financially * Moving to Virtual Conferencing * EuroPython 2020 Online (https://ep2020.europython.eu/) 13:20 - Intellectual Property * Holding in Trust for Community * Preserving Goodness * PyLadies (https://www.pyladies.com/) * Brand Integrity 16:36 - The Development of a Code of Conduct * Enforcement * Ratio of Enforcers to Attendees 23:08 - Naomi: Classics, Language, and Computer Science * Similarities and Differences * Jamshid Gharajedaghi (https://www.amazon.com/Systems-Thinking-Complexity-Designing-Architecture/dp/0123859158) 29:15: Ewa: Ending Up in Governance 31:03 - Ewa and Naomi’s Roles in PSF * The PSF Board * The PSF Staff 35:49 - Creating Emergency Funds 40:18 - Grants & Sponsorships * Humble Bundle (https://www.humblebundle.com/) * PPP Grant (https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs/loans/coronavirus-relief-options/paycheck-protection-program) 42:33 - Contractual Agreements 46:22 - Engaging in a Virtual Setting Over In-Person Events * Python Pizza (https://python.pizza/) 51:15 - Approaching Issues Marginalized People Experience Reflections: Rein: If you want to understand how an accident happened, you need to understand why what a person was doing made sense to them at the time. “What would this mean if this made sense?” Jacob: Looking forward to new conference formats. Carina: What solutions are people pitching for moving to virtual gatherings? Naomi: Only in our space do we think it’s "weird" to talk about whether or not we need emergency reserves. Also, online Hallway Tracks? Yes or no? What do now? Ewa: Moving to online events is emotional. This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Special Guests: Ewa Jodlawska and Naomi Ceder.


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Posted on 27 May 2020 | 9:00 am


183: How We Learn with Vaidehi Joshi

01:47 - Vaidehi’s Superpower: Learning new things and teaching them to other people * Teaching Things Helps YOU Learn * Deciding on Things to Learn 05:01 - Approaching Learning * Reading * Relating Things to Things Already Known * Ask Yourself, “Why do I need to know this?” * Tricks for Reading Papers * Read the Abstract & Conclusion * Pick Fights with the Paper * Using Tutorials * Accountability & Motivation * Learning with Others * Unraveled (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaDrN74SfdT7Ueqtwn_bXo1MuSWT0ji2w) * Hermeneutic Circle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutic_circle) 20:15 - Having Aha! Moments & Epiphanies: Brain Percolation * Russell Ackoff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_L._Ackoff) * Absolution * Resolution * Solution * Dissolution * Paradoxes 32:02 - Technologists Are Good Storytellers 39:03 - Improving Over Time and Doing Your Best * Hindsight Bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindsight_bias) * Blameless Retrospectives: Accountability 47:55 - Creating Spaces for People to Succeed * Manager Training * “Managing Up”: The Phrase – meh 52:58 - Effective Mentorship * Mentorship vs Sponsorship * Trust * Lara Hogan (https://larahogan.me/) Reflections: Jamey: Incremental learning and progress – biting off small chunks and not beating ourselves up while learning. It’s not a waste of time to just do a little at a time. Rein: Soft skills are technical skills. Vaidehi: It’s hard to measure and quantify these things. This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Special Guest: Vaidehi Joshi.


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Posted on 20 May 2020 | 9:00 am


182: Labor Organizing with Ellen Wondra

00:41 - Ellen’s Superpower: Knowing what her pets are thinking. (Observation and Paying Attention to Non-Verbal Cues.) * Virginia Satir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Satir), Congruence and Incongruence * Lie to Me (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie_to_Me) * Detecting Microexpressions 10:33 - Shareholder and Stakeholder Economies * Game Theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory) * Out of the Crisis (https://www.amazon.com/Out-Crisis-Press-Edwards-Deming/dp/0262541157) * Mitbestimmung (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitbestimmungsgesetz) * Codetermination and Alienation * Complexity Theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complexity_theory) 18:30 - Termination of Employment Contracts * Emergent and Deliberate Strategy 27:44 - Collective Action – Why aren’t tech workers organizing more? * Amazon Reinstates Fired Warehouse Worker After Employees Strike (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7jaaq/amazon-reinstates-fired-warehouse-worker-after-employees-strike) * The Potential Usefulness and Benefits of Unions * Project Maven (https://www.blog.google/products/google-cloud/incorporating-googles-ai-principles-google-cloud/) 37:47 - Moving in the Direction of Stakeholder Value – What do we do next? * Anjuan Simmons – Lending Privilege (https://anjuansimmons.com/talks/lending-privilege/) * Talk to Your Coworkers: Build Connections; Network Architecture * Explore Worker Power * Manager Boards Reflections: John: A reminder of the value of collective action. Rein: Tech workers are workers and workers have more in common with other workers than they do with bosses. Aaron: The practical ways of implementing collective action in tech. Episode 80: Crafting a Community with Kris Howard (https://www.greaterthancode.com/crafting-a-community) This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Special Guest: Ellen Wondra.


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Posted on 13 May 2020 | 9:00 am